So we all know that some fundamental divide occurred between Cyclops and Wolverine even if you haven't read this. I really just wanted to know what that was and it turned out to be a little anti-climactic and felt forced. The fight between Cyke and Wolvey was well drawn but seemed a bit petty to me. Although, Wolverine's reasoning for starting the Xavier school up again did seem justifiable.
The Regenesis story included in thi 3. The Regenesis story included in this collection was quite terrible, art and all. Jun 11, Richard rated it really liked it Shelves: comix-graphix-marvel-heroes , x-homies. One of the coolest things about this story is how it brought to head the gradual, conflicting dual arcs of Cyclops and Wolverine. When you read early X-men books, you would never think that Wolverine, the savage, irreverent antihero, would be the one fighting for the educa One of the coolest things about this story is how it brought to head the gradual, conflicting dual arcs of Cyclops and Wolverine.
When you read early X-men books, you would never think that Wolverine, the savage, irreverent antihero, would be the one fighting for the educational ideals of Professor Xavier and keeping kids out of harms way or that the golden boy Cyclops would turn into a hardened soldier, willing to win a war and survive by any means necessary.
This book is a turning point in the X-universe and features a great Civil War -style conflict between these two leaders, where you'll have a tough time choosing a side, as both are correct. It gets pretty tense and gripping. That was kind of silly and awkward. View 1 comment. Apr 26, Mike rated it liked it. Aaron kicks this miniseries off with a Knowing where this is headed thanks, Marvel press corps , and given Aaron's ham-fisted dialogue he doesn't seem to get either voice right and foreshadowing, this doesn't start well.
However artificial the premise kicks off the Sentinel re-launch, the initial wave of terror they create is at least believably illustrated. And the antagonists of this story are suitably menacing, but not for reasons I would've e Aaron kicks this miniseries off with a And the antagonists of this story are suitably menacing, but not for reasons I would've expected. After reading the core story, I feel like this: like most of the non-Bendis-led events of Marvel's recent history e.
Shadowlands, Fear Itself , the main event comic is probably weaker than some of the supporting stories written alongside as tie-ins to the event. I can't prove that yet with this book, but even though there was some decent plotting and the dialogue improved slightly, this still felt entirely artificial and implausible. I hope that Marvel follows through on this one, if they really intend for us to believe it. For now though, this feels like a squabble between teenagers on a schoolyard, and one that should blow over just as inconsequentially.
I think one thing that frustrates me most about Marvel and which might be colouring my attitude to what Aaron did here is that they don't commit to change. Utopia is a great new concept and it's been executed masterfully by Fraction and others, but they do easily backslide into Xavier's school in Westchester - out of nostalgia, not because it hasn't been wrung dry of every fresh story that could be told.
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Best issue was Gillen's Regenesis. Good storytelling device, interesting snippets of what generally felt like believable and appropriate dialog save a few begging moments. Marvel, don't squander this opportunity. Here are my plot notes because I can never remember who when and what, when I'm reading later books: view spoiler [Carlton Kilgore killed by his son Kade.
Kade creates events to kick off sales of new Sentinel model. Hellfire club, which went mutant-free, gets taken over and killed off by Kade and his band of child billionaire weaponeers. Idie kills Helllfire club goons, thinks she's acting like the monster she believes she is. View all 9 comments. Aug 05, Sesana rated it liked it Shelves: comics , superhumans. Lackluster execution of an interesting concept. Splitting the X-Men along ideological lines is an interesting thought, and I kind of like the split between proactive Cyclops and reactive Wolverine. But it's just really, really poorly executed.
The actual boiling point comes when Cyke wants to allow the perfectly willing teens with powerful mutant abilities defend their home and themselves from a giant Sentinel come to kill them all, and Wolverine doesn't want the kids in battle. Which is, to my Lackluster execution of an interesting concept. Which is, to my knowledge, the first time that Kitty's and Jubilee's father figure ever had a problem with a powerful teen fighting literally for survival. I guess it's supposed to be an eye opening thing for Wolverine, but I just couldn't really buy it. Especially because I know that Logan is about to go cross country and train these same teens he doesn't want to learn how to fight and they'll be defending themselves within a few issues.
I buy that the split happened, I buy that there are insurmountable differences between the two leaders, but the breaking point just needed to be more clear and more believable. Side note: does anybody else think that maybe Idie who is black might have been more interested in the doll if Logan had gotten her one that looked like herself? I guess we're supposed to read that as Idie being matured beyond childish things past her years, but a most girls her age are past baby dolls in the least traumatic of circumstances and b she might have liked a doll she could identify with.
Sorry, moving on. This whole collection gets three stars for the surprisingly well-written and effective Regenesis issue. It's the actual blow-by-blow of who goes where and why in the split, and it's the best thing in this book. The dialog is mostly very good, and it redeems some of the more poorly thought out decisions that lead to this story in the first place. Mar 15, Gavin rated it really liked it Shelves: comics. I enjoyed this purely for the fact that it literally ripped the X-Men in two. Obviously, Cyclops is one side, and Wolverine is the other; could it happen any other way?
No, don't think so. Very interesting, especially the Regenisis book which detailed the splitting into 2 factions in a very cool way. Also liked how they showed Scott and Logan working together, and respecting each other, yet being willing to rip each other to shreds over ideology. Well worth a read, especially as X-Men fan, becau I enjoyed this purely for the fact that it literally ripped the X-Men in two.
Well worth a read, especially as X-Men fan, because it sets up the way forward with nearly every title in the X-family. Apr 23, Shannon rated it liked it Shelves: books-reviewed , fantasy-scifi , action , graphic-novels. The X-men are splitting up. This tale focuses on its culmination and the rationales of various characters. The ending was the best part. Close to a four star but no cigar, Freud. May 03, Keith rated it really liked it.
If it wasn't for my current X-Men reading rampage, I never would have picked this book up especially since I'd never even heard of it. Some sort-of-crossover-event with a terrible cover? Why bother? Luckily, my X-Men rampage led me here. Minus the shit cover, it's awwwwesome.
Great art, funny sometimes, serious somet If it wasn't for my current X-Men reading rampage, I never would have picked this book up especially since I'd never even heard of it. Jason Aaron is kinda my new drug. May 06, Malum rated it liked it Shelves: x-men , graphic-novels , marvel. The age of heroes fighting heroes is in full swing at this period in Marvel history and would continue for a few years yet , and so now we are given "X-Men Civil War".
I didn't really like the main story until about issue 3. It got a little more interesting and picked up the pace a bit view spoiler [although I still don't know if I buy Cyclops blasting Logan with his pew pew beams without any physical provocation AND when Utopia is seconds away from an attack. He's certainly not my 2. Besides a slow start, the only other real complaint is that the art is kind of weird. Logan looks really fat, for example. The Hope issues are basically the end of the main book retold from a different perspective, from the point of view of characters that I couldn't care less about.
The art was also a lot worse in these issues. This story was intercut with pointless panels of the characters as cave men, because I guess they needed to pad this dry story out a bit. Oh god, spare me. If I had rolled my eyes any harder I would have went blind. So, anyway, a decent X-Men story that really only exists to split everyone's favorite mutants into different teams. Schism is probably worth the read, but I would suggest only the biggest X-Men fans read the other stories.
Feb 24, Sam Quixote rated it really liked it. Meanwhile the Hellfire Club undergo a rebranding and a new leader with no qualms about setting loose a dangerous new t SPOILERS The X-Men have started their own mutant nation, a small island off the coast of California named Utopia, in a bid to create an identity and safe haven for themselves. Meanwhile the Hellfire Club undergo a rebranding and a new leader with no qualms about setting loose a dangerous new type of machine, one that seems unstoppable, and sets its sights on Utopia.
With the X-Men scattered across the globe dealing with the Sentinel threat, Cyclops, leader of Utopia, is given the choice of abandoning the island or doing the unthinkable — conscripting mutant children to put their lives on the line to save the fledgling nation. Jason Aaron gets the ball rolling nicely on this well put together and vastly interesting new series for the X-Men. I like the idea of Utopia though I felt the Westchester Academy was kind of the same thing. Until it was destroyed of course. The book hinges upon the decision Cyclops faces and which Wolverine is completely against doing — asking kids to fight for them.
The resulting fight between Cyclops and Wolverine is gripping reading and the mutants of the world become split between one vision of the world and the other. The one gripe I will say is about the Hellfire Club — hyper-intelligent and black-hearted 10 year olds, really? It just looked silly. Either way, this is the most interesting X-Men storyline the series has had in years and I look forward to the coming stories following this split. View all 3 comments. Dec 11, Beckiezra rated it liked it Shelves: comics-manga. Nostalgia for X-Men be darned, this took me almost a month to come back and finish because the first two chapters were so blah why do I care.
The last 4 parts of the book went much faster, maybe it was just a change in my attitude.
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I have to go downgrade my rating for prelude to schism now because this book was much better than that one and I can't possibly give this book more than 3 stars because: Things I hate: 10 year old super villains. They're not mutants, they're just super evil rich kids Nostalgia for X-Men be darned, this took me almost a month to come back and finish because the first two chapters were so blah why do I care.
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They're not mutants, they're just super evil rich kids who manage to take out all the adults in their life, fight aliens, take over the Hellfire club, create a super sentinel, and successfully destroy the X-Men. It was ridiculous and part of why the second chapter was so hard to get through. Stupid cavemen fights.
What the what?! I guess it made it slightly interesting for someone, and was good for giving breaks as they divided everyone up for this stupid schism. The X-Men have always been kids fighting, that's who they are, Professor X gatherings impressionable young mutants and turns them into a commando team of fighters for truth justice and the mutant way! Logan and Scott fighting each other when a freaking sentinel is there to destroy them. I think Scott has the sense to stop blowing Logan down to a skeleton after the first sentinel blast on the island even if I can imagine Logan preferring to keep fighting even though obviously those kids he cares SOOO much about can't possibly have evacuated yet so he can't go blowing up the island.
The art was pretty decent even if I didn't love it all the time. Why can't the same artist do things? Is that asking too much? I have not read X-books even semi-regularly over the last 15 years so I realize there have been a lot of changes in the characters and the situations. I blame two things 1 those movies that made the comics decide spandex wasn't cool anymore and 2 terrorists making everyone feel like things can only be bad and we have to reflect that in our entertainment.
So I know Scott has been doing some crazy stuff for the last decade and I can overlook it in general to read random graphic novels. Maybe I would see it as a more natural change in the books if it happened gradually over a decade but I just randomly read these newer collections and wish there were some collections of the good stuff I was waiting to have happen for years and then it finally did a couple years after I stopped collecting and somehow the X-Men have adopted Magneto's dream for mutant isolation and Scott is a jerk who takes advice from Emma and I don't even know who half the characters are and don't really care about their lost childhoods or mental anguish or whatever.
I just care about the characters that I know and I do not like the way the writers have decided to tear them apart. I can't give this less than 3 stars because it was an emotionally charged story for me at least and isn't that what a book should do? May 12, Stephen rated it liked it. After a mutant-triggered international incident, anti-mutant hatred hits new heights. It's at this moment, when the mutant race desperately needs to stand together, that a split begins that tears apart the X-Men.
The tension that has been simmering away for the last couple of years bubbles up to the surface here. I won't go into the main plot in great detail, as it's not great. And the Hellfire Club kids are awful. Truly awful. I never thought it'd be Wolverine to make the point that teaching chil After a mutant-triggered international incident, anti-mutant hatred hits new heights. I never thought it'd be Wolverine to make the point that teaching children to become killers is wrong, but there you have it. But Cyclops is right that these children do not have the chance to be children: people are trying to kill them every day, and only by learning to fight can they survive.
Let's not forget that many of the X-Men were children themselves when they first joined the team. I couldn't say which side I'd be on. Wolverine's intentions are obviously noble, but what he's doing feels so futile it's hard to view it as the right choice. Wolverine's hypocrisy is not lost on the reader, either; he's still the man behind X-Force, and he's had to engage in some pretty shady means to justify his ends.
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Anyway, enough of that. Let's get to the good part: the final issue, where we get to see some characters make their decisions. The decisions issue is interspersed with scenes of the X-Men as cavemen, choosing sides while watching a fight between caveman-Cyclops and cavemen-Wolverine. While it sounds ridiculous, as a visual metaphor it works pretty well. There's very few big shocks. Most of the characters you'd expect to go with Wolverine go with Wolverine, and most of the characters you'd expect to stay with Cyclops stay on Utopia. While part of me applauds this consistency, wouldn't it have been interesting to see some characters choose differently?
What if Rogue had stayed with Cyclops? Or Gambit? Or Marvel Girl? What if Emma had chosen to go to the school? Schism isn't the greatest, but as a set-up to the next era of X-Men stories, it's good stuff. Definitely worth a read. Jun 14, Martin Earl rated it liked it Shelves: comics. I came back to comics after this happened, at the beginning of the Marvel Regenesis period, having read most of Civil War, but nothing much else. I did read House of M, which was important for this. For that reason, this book answered a lot of questions that I didn't really even know I had.
All of this makes Wolverine's work with him at the new school even more mature and Xavier-ish. Mostly, though, wha I came back to comics after this happened, at the beginning of the Marvel Regenesis period, having read most of Civil War, but nothing much else. Mostly, though, what this book did for me was show the final descent of Scott Summers into idiocy and megalomania. This brings us the Cyclops of AvX and of the new Mutant revolution.
It's good to see that happen. I know that he'd been persecuted his whole life and had been running and running and running for as long as he can remember, but there was no need to take a martyr's stand and make the kids fight for what HE perceived as the only way. By letting wolverine blow himself and the robot up, a Mutant would still be doing the fighting, would still be making a stand against this kind of genocide, but would be doing it without harm to himself.
It is this martyr's stance, this insistance that he ALWAYS be facing the hate of the world even though it was just Kilgore trying to make money at their expense, not a true mutant-hate attack that has made him the horrible person that he has become. Now, more than ever, he truly is a cyclops, and the accompanying lack of depth perception that comes from not seeing things from two points has blinded him to anything else but his own hurt. Feb 05, Travis Duke rated it it was amazing.
Having read alot of the newer stuff this book becomes more and more important as time goes on. As we now know the teams are still broken. Regenesis is a really cool after comic that explains where all the x-men go. Overall Jason Aaron does a great job writing this book. Jul 06, Brandon St Mark rated it it was amazing Shelves: comics-manga , marvel , reads. Really great read! I definitely am going to pick up more X-Men titles when I go back to my lcs! View all 4 comments. Jan 20, Markus rated it really liked it Shelves: marvel , comics , x-men.
Me and my x-men comics have a relationship going on over 20 years. We have had more good times than bad times, there's was a year or two that we lived in a separation, but Grant Morrison came and united us once more and everything was good for a while. Lately we have more bad times than good times and divorce was looming in a horizon. I decided to give last chance to this new 'counselor guy' named Jason Aaron and this thing called the 'Schism' and something happened, his plan worked. I was smili Me and my x-men comics have a relationship going on over 20 years.
I was smiling again while reading my x-men, not perfect yet, but right direction and see there's still a future for us, even after 24 years of marriage there is a breath of freshness in the air. Apr 06, Rick rated it it was ok.
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Where to start How about the art? For a tent pole event have a consistent art team, not different teams for different sections. And I just can't buy Wolverine as the compassionate guy who doesn't think kids should fight and kill Come on May 22, Adriana rated it really liked it Shelves: sequential-art-graphic-novel. Talk about a difference of opinions; Wolverine wants to protect mutant children while Cyclops thinks every mutant is a combatant.
They clash in a very spectacular way and end up drawing a dividing line between the few remaining mutants.
Mar 26, Sonic rated it liked it. Pretty excellent! But then the editors said, "Ok Aaron, now you need to finish this with a wrap-up story, oh and also we are gonna give you another not-as-good artist, since there is no action, make it great! Yeah, it ended on a pretty weak note so this only gets 3 stars. Aug 14, Daniel Perlino rated it really liked it. This review has been hidden because it contains spoilers. To view it, click here. I was very close to giving this 5 stars, but then I thought about it in relation to other books I have read and it wasn't quite there.
I love it when comics aren't afraid to get dark and edgy, as this does by having sadistic kids take over the Hellfire Club. The overt references to them killing their parents was a welcome innovation in a world where everyone wants to sugar coat things, even often in comics. The biggest X-event of the decade divides the mutant universe across distinct battle-lines and asks readers the question: 'Whose side are you on?
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